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An A-Team moment

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It doesn't happen all the time, but occasionally we do some great work which has benefits for all (including is - directly).

Today I received the following email (names removed - apart from John's!)

Hi Jamie,

I'd like to talk to someone about telesales options to support our sales lead generation. I got your details from Louise of Sentiment Metrics - I asked who they used for sales after being really impressed by a sales call from John (can't recall his surname). Perhaps we can explore working with John?

 So, the good stuff:

  1. Our client had a great meeting with this company.
  2. The company thought we were great, and directly asked about who we were (they thought John was their MD, he sounded to professional and well-briefed).
  3. We got a great new lead from our own good work... loving that.
All in all - a good day.
Loving it when a plan comes together - John Reeve is his name, in case you were wondering.


From consulting to services

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As a sales consulting business ourselves we are pretty well qualified to comment upon the ability of management consultants to plan their service offerings...

Frankly, we've never worked for a consulting business who has a really well worked model to gradually turn consulting into a services-based relationship with a client that "never" ends.

The problem is with the upfront sale.

We work hard to develop propositions for our clients where there is an "annuity" that pokes out of the back of engagements, sustaining the relationship until the next bulk project starts. 

Unfortunately it seems that much of the time our clients gets hired to "fix a problem" and then loses sight of the reason why we worked to get into that account... and cannot turn themselves back into the business that we pitched them as initially.

Our friend Ian Brodie spends a lot of his time helping professional services companies with their propositions... and actually although harder to break in - all of those companies have business models which are annuity-based.

If consultants generally are ever to build businesses that have real commercial value (and can sell for that value) - then they will need to work how they don't leave the relationship to stagnate whilst they deliver - and also how they generate repeat business. 

Otherwise feast & famine will remain how they run their businesses.


Only do what you're good at

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A while ago I blogged about why I don't believe salespeople are the answer any more... I've changed my mind.

Earlier this year we helped a client find the perfect Sales Director. I won't embarrass anyone by naming names, but suffice to say that Leads were not the company's issue - but sales process and good internal resource to qualify and close leads were.

Having found the right person, helped with a sales process, we then engage again, now because in order to grow the client needs larger clients, and they cannot be found through a google adword campaign... unless they are searching for you of course.

Suffice to say, we did what we do well:

  • Researched the market.
  • Identified 80 companies who fitted the client's criteria of a desirable customer.
  • Targeted the CEO of each company.
  • Wrote a really great sales letter.
  • Mailed the first 20.
If any of you have done this before, you'll be as shocked as we were at what happened next.
One letter made its way through the internal mail of a large company to the Head of Digital (well done all those unrecognised PA's out there), and the gentleman concerned rang back... asking for a demonstration of the software in question. 
A full global tender is now underway and our client should win the work (fingers crossed).
We have now actually followed up the remaining letters, mailed the rest, and are now feeding the sales team at our client with new sales leads.
My point? The Sales Director at this client is NOT a deal opener, they are not persistent or brilliant on the phone in starting new relationships, but are superb and beautifully diligent at closing deals.
If you know anything about sales and salespeople you will see this all the time. And the moral?
ONLY do what you are good at.


The wrong way round...

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I'm constantly asked how we go about qualifying the appointments that we generate. Do we do it before we pitch the person? Is it a process that takes a good deal of time? How far can one go with qualification (see previous blog entry)? What has become evident 6 years into this business, is that almost everyone expects us to do the qualification the wrong way round. In other words, qualify the prospect and THEN if they are still in the game pitch them. Let's put ourselves in the prospect's position. Someone you do not know has called you and is clearly making a sales call. They start the call by saying..."I'm from Company X, can I ask you what your software development plans are this year?" Let's then imagine what else the prospect was doing when the phone rang, how busy he was, and the fact that he can see this 20 questions phone call spiralling off into the distance... Frankly, the people we pitch are called more than 20 times per day usually (and they have a job to do), and this is the structure people use. I don't know about you, but my natural inclination is to tell the best lie I can think of (I'm in a meeting, I have no budget, I'm not the head of software development, I have lost my voice...) and get off the call a.s.a.p You see the problem is that in the scenario briefly described earlier the prospect was given no reason to answer any questions. He had no idea about how the company was positioned, he hadn't committed to anything as a result, even a few minutes to have a chat. So, easy to bail. We do this stuff the right way round. Be polite, ask the guy for his time (a few minutes), pitch him quickly and ask to meet. If he says yes (even after a few calls where the conversation has flowed and we've sent over collateral etc...) and we are in his diary to meet - ONLY then to we qualify him. And you know what? He tells us the truth (he is seeing our client in a few weeks anyway right so what's to lose?), he offers more information than we asked for, and he beds the meeting in in his own mind as a result. Now that's the way to do it.

Pre-Qualification - the cowards way?

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When we start the process of working on a new Lead Generation project, the single biggest issue to gain agreement over is qualification. What represents a lead? Is the contact senior enough to have budget? Does the company have a real need? 

When I speak about this to clients and our own team, I often liken the process of arranging a first meeting to that of asking a girl (or boy) out on a date. 

Now in my dating days in the UK (1980's) we just used to get slightly tipsy and then pluck up the courage to declare undying love ask if we could kiss a girl we'd been smiling blithely at all evening, but I believe that this is now a far more sophisticated process.

In simple terms we are very careful that the people we talk to about our clients services are at the very least contacts that our client wants to do business with - which includes qualification such as Vertical Market, Size of company, Number of staff, Job Title / Function of the person required etc... this tells us enough to know that our client will 'fancy' the prospect (to continue the analogy).

More complex is how we qualify the prospect and make sure they want to meet - without ever having seen our client. Again, to use the dating analogy we are in effect asking a girl out when she has never met us, doesn't really know what our client looks like, but we've give her enough confidence about our background, status and personality for her to agree to a 'blind date'.

Often  we are asked to qualify prospects on their likelihood to purchase... do they have budget? Are they ready to buy? To continue the dating theme to the end, this is equivalent of asking what the likely outcome is a first date? A polite kiss, a second date, heavy petting or something altogether more carnal?

Anyway, the point is that there are some things that are not worth qualifying on before you meet. As soon as you ask whether or not a client is going to buy something from you before you've even met - the expectations from all parties are skewed. The prospect is bound to lie and say 'Not me - I'm a good girl and I don't put out on a first date'... (the client if might expect another result and will go off to the chemist for protection), and in the end neither are satisfied. 

For our part we work for clients who have confidence in their own appeal, can woo a prospect in a meeting, and don't assume anything when they walk in the room. We think that is for the best...  


The bad first meeting

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A few months ago a consulting client of ours sat in a review meeting we were having with a face like thunder. It was 2.30 in the afternoon and he had attended a sales meeting which we had generated that very morning.
 
Now whilst sales is a messy business I was pretty sure that the morning's meeting had been very well researched and arranged by our team. So, I sat in trepidation waiting to ask him what was wrong.
 
Now I should at this point make it clear that this is a very fair and honest man I'm talking about. Never have we had a falling out that wasn't over in 5 minutes, and he is one of the few consultant 'sales' directors who has realized that they have neither the time, skills or inclination to dilligently cold-call or follow-up the lukewarm/cold leads that they might own.
 
Eventually it came out - "We were rubbish this morning!". "We didn't work out what they were really asking us for, I didn't read the notes properly before I walked into the room, and we certainly didn't do bespoke slides or google research before the meeting".
 
Now this client always goes to one of our meetings with two people, one as salesperson the other as subject matter expert. They play off each other well.
 
When I asked him about their close ratio of 1st meetings to initial work last week for this blog, he said "about 50%". 
 
So, the reality of his black humour was that actually they are normally pretty good at these 1st meetings. Over 4 years they have worked out what gets them to the next stage, and they clearly impress clients normally well enough to do so.
 
I reminded him that this was one poor meeting out of about 40 that they would have this year, and that at least he knew what a bad meeting was! I don't suspect it will happen again very soon.
 
But this is not the case with some of our clients. Despite achieving a high turnover, and running a group of highly paid consultants, some people are not comfortable with the sales material they are delivering in meeting 1. They do not recognize when to close, and what to close for. Moreover, they don't always leave having learned how to improve their performance. 
 
I'm not advocating turning all consultants into salespeople, but I do think that if you're not any good then recognize it and GET SOME HELP! It might make you an awful lot more money. Training; better presentations; looking a little smarter (you'd be surprised); being on time... Sales 101.
 
If you need some help let us kinow - we're not sales trainers, but we can point you in the right direction. Otherwise you can buy as many great meetings from us as you want, but if you waste those meetings you waste us too. 

We call it "Phone Shy"

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In the land of making sales appointments there is one quality that matters above all else - courage. 

At any time in your life, making a phone call to someone you don't know, trying to make a human connection and deliver a business pitch at the same time, is very very scary. You can be Richard Branson making that call, but if you're cold calling the pope it's still scary.

To be frank, I'm not only talking about cold calling here. I remember a recent conversation with a 'grown-up' client, an MD in his middle fifties who was worrying on a friday morning about a deal he was trying to close. 'I've emailed, texted and spoken to his colleagues' he said... trying to find out more information about progress and the final answer. We debated hard but in the end we agreed that he needed to call the guy and find out how it was going to go down, with him or the competition. He just got phone shy.

In recent months I've tried working with a client who has a number of consultants 'on the bench', and who should be working to generate new engagements for the business. I was asked to help 'train' the team to make calls to senior marketeers and strategy heads in bue chip companies... and I spent several half-days working them through our process, the rules of the road in calling people 'cold' who have very important jobs, and how email / letters just won't do it on their own.

After 7 weeks of work, I don't think more than 1 out of 10 people had made a single call. Maybe consultants feel more deeply that their professional pride will be hurt if they are told 'NO' by a prospect that they have called cold, after all they do sell their expertise and talent and they might feel devalued if told 'NO' too often?

Our team don't let themselves get into situations where people are rude to them on the phone. To get into that position you've generally pushed too hard, been impolite, or tried to answer a question you've no business going near. As such we don't get phone shy, and after all it's our job so we're pretty good at it.

So that's the answer. If you're phone shy it's either because you don't have the skills or you don't need the work enough. Most of our clients would say that it's not their skillset so they ask us to help, comfortable in the knowledge that the work is being done to a high quality, and then passed on to them to develop and close.

The moral? Do only what you are good at

 


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